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2much trouble

nothin2say

too hot for me

no fit state

nuffin

london traffic

for your love

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dubscientist

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You’re not from round here are you?

You’re not from round here are you?
You’re from some foreign land
Some different dimension
Where people still understand
About Love and Life and Freedom
You must find things here quite strange
We were once like you
Before things got rearranged

Don’t worry though you’ll get used to it
Once you learn to turn your back
The skill of selective blindness
It’s not hard once you’ve got the knack
Find yourself a social group
To confirm your new outlook
Or simply turn on the television
Read a newspaper or a book

The outlook is everywhere
You won’t have to search for long
You will soon convince yourself
Those old ways are all wrong
I know it’s hard for you to understand
But love is out of date
If you don’t submit to apathy
Your love will turn to hate

You’re not from round here are you? I can tell,
You’re from some foreign land
Some different dimension

 

POSITIVE MINDSET

...to avert the Dark Future

----------------------------------------------------------------------

GROWTH

As the child grows
the HOPE would be
that the trials and lessons of life
Will remove naivity
But not innocence
the Adult should become
Realistic
Without being cynical

Practical AND Idealistic
Idealistic AND Practical
the two are NOT mutually exclusive
Cynics are NOT the only realists
Innocents are NOT always naive

As this is the hope for the progress of the Individual
As the child becomes adult
So we hope the peace movement
may grow in the same way
Only this type of growth can avert the Dark Future facing us

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HOPE

We must believe in goodness for there to be hope
Despite being sold the idea
Of the essential selfishness of mankind
For it is in the interests of those selling us that idea
To make us selfish
The present consumer model
Prefers Selfish Citizens
And as soon as you've lost your belief in goodness
You may as well be selfish
Because everyone else is
You don't really have an option
So we must believe in goodness for there to be hope
Faith in ourselves and human kind
Despite the evidence of evil
Focussed and concentrated for us by the Media
But we can temper that evidence
As it seems
On average
the Media WANTS to bring the Dark Future on
Don't give up hope
Hope is necassary to avert the Dark Future

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HUMAN NATURE

People on the whole
are OK
Genuine evil is very rare
Believing this assists the Bright Future
it is also good for your soul
But most importantly
it is true
Most of the vast evils we see
Boil down to ignorance
and misunderstanding
Not really evil in the heart of the perpetrator
People on the whole
are OK
But the world presents situations
Where even the best go wrong
and the majority are quite lazy, morally
The best people
The actively, genuinely good people
Are almost as rare as the evil people
But you don't believe me about the scarcity of evil people?
think about it
How many people think THEMSELVES to be evil?
even Hitler didn't think he was evil
Most evil actions
Would be ceased by the perpetrator
The minute it crossed the perpetrators mind that the actions were evil
Even the rare, genuinely evil people, have to lie to themselves
to do what they do
this indicates a basic goodness at the heart of humanity
People on the whole are OK
You know it from your day to day
human
unmediated experience

therefore; The Bright Future is POSSIBLE

---------------------------------------------------------------------

THE FUTURE

The future is NOT fixed
The past IS
The present moment is the fixing post
This truth
Is embedded in the most modern Physics
And in the most ancient Philosophies
Determinism
- the belief that the future is determined -
is a mistake
Or, being less charitable;
Determinism is a lie that assists dark agendas

Freedom of the Will is a necassary condition for the existence of the universe
The future is NOT fixed
The Dark Future
That we can all see coming
IS NOT THE ONLY FUTURE
Though it takes some considerable vision
to see The Bright Future
at this present time
Believing the inevitability of any one future
helps to bring it on
Believe in a Brighter Day
For the whole world
Hope
With Freedom comes Responsibility
That Responsibility is to the Future
There is no such thing as "could have been"
because the past is fixed
the past can only be forgiven or not forgiven
BUT THE FUTURE IS NOT FIXED
and that is why
The Bright Future IS POSSIBLE
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THE BRIGHT FUTURE

What is The Bright Future?
Use your imagination
Think general, think specific
Think regions, Forces, Peoples
Think idealistic, think practical
Think detail.... but remember
The infinite variations in the unfixed future
Possible futures abound without limit
Think compatibility
because your Bright Future
must also be a bright future for "Them"
His Bright Future must be a Bright Future for Her.
My Bright Future must be a Bright Future for you

Think long term
As you stand,
with the line of your ancestors stretching out behind you
into the past...
Ahead of you their grand children's grand children live in a world
of your making
You are making it as you Imagine - you are creating possibilities
Now
You stand as the bridge between the ancient past and the far future
Now

then
Think short term
The changes necassary
The real, concrete making of the future happens moment by moment
Worry less about those things that seem impossible now
Search for the chink in the armour
The next step
The following step will reveal itself when you get there
Plant seeds as you go - so the trail behind you blooms with flowers
let those that follow know that things can get better
We must repay our moral debts

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Where people still understand
About Love and Life and Freedom
You must find things here quite strange
We were once like you
Before things got rearranged

tobacco can vary in value and is the origin of the slang "quid" for one pound stirling, a three finger pinch out of a pouch for a quick job, if you'd a done it better i'd a made it a drink, an u tellin me dis jfk 11110 silver dollar got some kinda value cos it standardised, fuedal system son, the only solution


listenin to frankie, blues in the night, i know the worst vice is advice, but... in your travels i would like to add a burdensome thought on your travellars interstellar entanglement:allow me...? u remember when u told me, "i know whats happening! we're writing the story", i hate to care to trouble you with it now as it troubled me back then

a riddle song for bare eyes only, r...


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the sun is the source of all life - not a disagreement - only to say, as always - any story can be told many ways - and to express my disagreement with the implied 19th century scientificist idea of "the explanation"

now i'm gwarn to haf ta get SERIOUS with U, innit, cos if U wanna B MY manager, then I'M gwarn be YOUR publicist - ok? - well then... we can't have the "public" knowing your an old bag can we??? i'm still running with the game that you and lilly g r both 23 and your gonna mess up my WHOLE record label if you carry on being honest - got that??? good, dont make me say it again, r...


beware sociology, the experiment affects the result, the learning effects the being, and the knowing is often a prejudiced illusion


dont want contact, speak to mudge or andy ifly about current row i dont want to have with him spaked by byron bollox, dont wanna kno, did good bob marley show, then got hurled downstairs by four paramilitary bouncers big steriods types, maybe five, so now both sides of ribcage are agony, not interested anymore, write me a letter with a return address and i'll reply, otherwise check myspace.com/robtherub standard reply to allcomers thankyou


password utopia1 login rubspace2@yahoo.co.uk please communicate with comments only from this profile, only i modify the profile, reclaim love in 13 countries this weekend, valentines, aslo anniversary of feb15th 2003, 35 million worldwide


before the time there was the multiverse, and god said let adam actually "see" the light, and the first measurement was made - thus the wavefunction of the multiverse collapsed into the asymettrical UNIverse - and this is the FIRST verse of the quantum songstory, of how this riddle of a world came to be, in the twinkling of an eye, with all the dinosoar's already - been - before the dreamtime before the time before the time - the multiverse twinkled, one last mind - and all the suffering never happened, and eternity - remains the same


Coming out of London, on the way to another rebel rave, to the Sheffield rebel stronghold, must make them misbehave, if i can set just one of them free, i can make a reason for the fire in me, the fire and the darkness, the peace not war make a war on the peace in me, thats what theyre for, spark me up a little bit and i'm exploding, better than the dark feeling of foreboding, two double oh nine, Copenhagen prove the government aint gonna save us, but we dont care, fuck it, the worst it can come to is nothing, so we have nothing to fear - thank god there is a reason


---------------------------
for baraka = emma
---------------------------
if i seem a little unfriendly
these days
- ask the backstabbing bitches
- - why?

how horrible it was to be so loved
i'm amazed
- the way the girl wants to steal your soul
- - and make you cry

and then go off crying and say
i am the bastard cos she couldnt get her way

if i seem a little cautious
about being your friend
it was never in my nature
and wont be in the end
---------------------------
but right now there are those
who covet my very soul
who have my defenses fully tuned
against ALL forms of mind control
============================
a fool most foolish
to play a fool game with me
a most foolish foolery

fool don't spread the news
of your foolishness
round this fool |town|

a fool a gossip
a gossip a fool
a foolishness that makes me |frown|

We are completely insane

One day we will have to pay for what we have done, what we are doing and what it looks like we will continue to do. The World Trade Centre was just a symbol, something to make us think, Lives are jut Lives, they know that much better than us. Now they are waiting while we reel out enough rope to hang ourselves with. I never realised what a crass ignorant race the English are. We always thought that was the Americans. When I hear intelligent people casting judgement on peoples they know nothing about. Towing the government line. Talking about protecting them. It was never a topic of conversation before Blair wanted to justify an invasion. Everybody thinks they're not affected by the propaganda, or they think there is no propoganda.

 

It's all very well for some 19th century Intellectual (Marx) to say "religion is the opium of the people" but the truth that that statement contained (which it contains no longer) obscured other truths;

"beer is the opium of the people",
"food is the opium of the people",
"sex is the opium of the people",
"Games of cards are the opium of the people",
"Mindless conversation is the opium of the people",
"Opium is the Opium of the people",

etc., etc., which, when unobscured, reveal the fallacy of the original statement; religion is not and was never "the" opium of the people, it was "an" opium at the very most, people have always had plenty of opiums. Also, that statement obscures a further set of truths that was, for many of the real working class, much more important;

"religion is the consoler of the people in times of sorrow",
"religion is the guide of the people when they are lost",
"religion is the foundation of the people's community validating, among other things, marraige and commitment before that community",

etc., etc., you can be an Atheist and still see the truth in this. What kind of "workers movement" is it that insists on taking this away from the workers? These issues go to the heart of what is fundamentally wrong with the whole attitude of Marxism.

Marx's supporters often claim that his writings don't go out of date, sucked in by his prophetic manner of writing, the air of certainty he weighs into his theories, the main article deals with how this conviction of the inevitability of his predictions emerges from his 19th century materialism. Without going into too much detail I think I can illustrate how out of date this part of the theory is by asking you simply to contrast and compare the following statements;

"religion is the opium of the people"

"television is the opium of the people"

which is more true?

dont tell me Marx doesnt go out of date

AMERICA!

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING???????????????

EMPIRES NORMALLY LAST 400 YEARS and your looking like blowing it at about 190!!!!!

THAT IS POOR MATE!

Sorry, I'm not trying to be unkind, but your running things WAY, WAY wrong here

BEFORE THE 11TH OF SEPTEMBER YOU LOOKED SET TO TAKE OVER THE WHOLE WORLD

WITHOUT A DROP OF BLOODSHED!

It was a fantastic form of "Imperialism",

the fanatics called it that,
...........but at the end of the day,
........It wasn't..................
.......Good old fasioned British Imperialism was the last example (we thought, before the 11th of September) of that type of Imperialism that marches in with guns to plunder a land.

You developed this fantastic form of Imperialism which was cultural takeover,

You were always the coolest, most advanced nation on the planet

for at least a century

and you were taking over.......WITHOUT INVADING

We watched your films, listened to you music

Saw our lives overun with cooperations (English Parliment never took responsibility for the East India Dock company Illegally forming a life of its own)

Remember when you told us we had to all get on the Internet? "what do you want it to be?", all that, experts on 'documentary's', not adverts mind, you hit us deep, implying all business had to get on line or die, and, as always, we believed.

2 zillion Trilla-Giga-Bytes of porn later......

BASICALLY, RIGHT..........IN A NUTSHELL

YOU had very nearly set up a situation where, in the future, a percentage of every transaction (effectively) that any human carried out anywhere on the face of the earth would go directly into the American economy, where the whole world would effectively be working FOR YOU without you having to occupy any territory outside your home, without having to draw lines on maps and help solve problems within the economy's you where manipulating, it was like Imperialism by remote control, complete dominance, and it could well have been one of the most peaceful empires since the early Muslim Empire, long before the Crusades (Do you know about them? If you don't, you should find out).

Instead, well...

INSTEAD!

BOY, THAT'S A GOOD ONE

IF STAN LEE HAD WRITTEN THE PLOT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LESS FAR FETCHED

Because the Evil Villain "Bin-Laden" from the Global Terrorist Network "Al Qa'ida" ("Al Qaeda"/"Al Quaeda") (And lets face it, that is a fucking cool name, contrast and compare; "Al Qaeda"/"The Evil Spectre" James Bond never had a plot this good.) well anyway, Ussama's like "fuckit, they're not unstoppable, what I'll do is, I'll knock down the World Trade Centre and goad George Bush into a War on Islam", "when the Arabs are under threat they'll have to make a decision instead of mincing down this road to American control", "...and if only we can trick the Americans into reeling out enough rope to hang themselves with, they'll fall and WE can take over the world...."

(HA.......HA.......HA..HAAAAAAA!!!!!!!)

AND REALLY, you should have seen that, it was pretty obvious, (and it still is)

Now everything's going according to plan (their plan) and Ussama's probably chuckling in his grave (I won't believe that suckers alive till I see a new bit of footage of him, there ain't been one for ages, Ussama's a vain mothefucker, he loves that camera man, in his cave, beamed out across the world, If he wasn't dead he couldn't have resisted making a tape by now, it's been over a year, audiotape don't count for me, I'm a sound engineer by trade)

You see we all love Stevie Wonder, for one, and as an old Dred I used to know said, "You see Rob, people of the world don't hate the American PEOPLE. Not yet. They still blame the government." that's why there havent been any attacks yet.

Now fuckin listen right, we gotta stop this shit NOW, understand?

We the people of these fucking so called democracies gotta stand up and make these motherfuckers (OUR LEADERS) WORK PROPERLY. ITS OUR RESPONSIBLITY.

It's no good, in 50 years, when your kids are carrying compulsory ID cards and thousands of lives have been shed on both sides and its worse than ever, going; "I went on the historic 15th of Febuary march when the whole world came out to demonstrate against the War but our leaders didn't listen"

Listen mate, they're OUR leaders, we OWN them, if they fuck up the world it's OUR fault its no good saying "my grandaddy didn't enslave your grandadday" cos Bush wrote it on the wall straight after the 11th of September, "Your either with us, or against us", a lot of people Immediately in there heads are signed up against us, just for future reference, if the battle should ever breakout on the streets on London Town and there's one mob taken over this estate and their shooting from the other side of the street, what side of the road are you on? Well? I can't fight against England but I've got a lot of friends whose conscience would have to put them on the other side of the road, if it was really forced upon them, if they really had to choose.

So please don't make it have to come to that, let's see if we can come to some equitable arrangment.

So lets rebuild British manufacturing by subsidising our tool manufacturers into making cheap tools for Africa so we can wind down our Gun Trade without hurting our economy too much (and get those fools off the street paying Jemima to take her gap year "teaching them how to make wells")

Oh yeah and war on Iraq.....a country who in TEN YEARS has managed to develop this INCREDIBLE rocket that can travel 180killimetres!!!!!! (the 'El Samoud')!!!!!!!

You say "weapons of mass destruction" I say "delivery mechanism"

We should be reallllllllllllly scared of them!!!

America you got to know you look like a bunch of pussy's, you got slapped and you gave back a bigger slap (Afghanistan), fair doo's mate (sort of), gotta show 'em whos boss, definately, but Iraq?

Your like some big kid who's never been in a fight before who's seen his blood for the first time, flailing around like a mad thing, while your oppenent, who's not as strong as you but is pretty good at Jujistu, he'll let you land a few punches while walking you over a cliff,,,,,,

DO YOU UNDERSTAND????????

More people died on the first HOUR of the Somme than at Pearl Harbour, and the Somme was a battle that lasted for MONTHS, yet to watch the recent "Pearl Harbour" film you'd think it was the only time a country had ever been attacked............. but then, that is your point of view, because that is the first and ONLY time YOU have ever been attacked before, and you are a very insular people, you see things only from your point of view, particularly ever since the press control of the McCarthy days and the anti-Communist bunch.

We, in the UK, who were quite lefty till at least the seventies, were persuaded that the American way implied freedom of choice and thought, and the Communist way meant, Militarization, Dominance of Megalithic institutions, Cameras everywhere, Big Brother, etc. also, if the truth be told, we didn't want to learn Russian.

But where are we now? Fuck knows.

This is where I am and thats the way it looks from here.....

George Bush is scary, "Bin Laden head of the Evil Alquaeda network!" is priceless but George Bush! If it was a novel you wouldn't believe him. This dimwit hick president, I don't need to go into his record, "Bush Bashing" is an unhelpful and far too easy sport, but they waited for him, it wouldn't have been nearly so effective, from their point of view if Bill Clinton was boss, too much chance of him spotting the plan. Bush's diplomacy skills are such that he has to go to war now 'cos he's said too much, fucking hell,

and we've got to go along with it

the Arabs invented chess

and we've got to go along with it cos Tony can't back down,

he just can't,

he's not man enough,

he could be an international hero of historic proportions, a man in his position (and there is only one, him) could achieve for himself the kind of legendary status that really only Nelson Mandela has in the world today,

he could sort it out,

and turn the whole lot of you round,
but he won't.

Now I hear you [America] got a black woman standing for president? Vote her in, do the world a favour, show the world that there's something to this democracy bollocks after all, that it's not just another convenient excuse like Christianity was, "They're not Christian so we have to invade them".

I got some good songs, Im an Oxford University trained physicist, living in london with links to all sections of the community, with ample finances, I could whip up a little nuclear device, I have a polish friend who says he can get me anything "50 kilogrammes of mercury, very good price, I get you AK47, very good price..........but its all radioactive", my brother works for British Aerospace Engineering, he's a rocket scientist, literally, last thing he worked on could accelarate from Mach 2 to Mach 6 in 4 seconds with a swivel mirror tracker on the front so accurate they targeted a sparrow while the rocket was in the lab and watched the mirror follow the sparrow round the garden. I was in the houses of parliment the other day, noone searched my shoes, I was 20 feet from Tony Blair, Jack Straw and the whole house the day of the first and probably last substantive motion on the war (23,Feb?). However, I am on OUR side, nevertheless, things cyaan' run so (ya get me?) I AM MORE OF A THREAT THAN SADDAM HUSSEIN, HIS MISSILES GO A HUNDRED MILES MAXIMUM. SURELY THE LESSON OF THE WASHINGTON GUNMAN IS THAT THE THREAT WILL NOT COME FROM NATION STATES.......this to me seems so very obvious it is hardly worth the effort of writing it down where it not the fact that noone seems to see, the anti-war lot are all going, "its terrible", "its morally wrong", "its hypocritical", "thousands of children will die", and so on and so forth and the PRO-war lot are going, "look, it'll be easy when we've done, you can all say how terrible it was and then everything will go back to normal", and, "after all, Saddam's not very nice", etc, etc, but, really, we don't need it,

I go for the "Self-Interest Argument" every time, forget "right and wrong", who cares how many babies die? Babies die all the time, I don't care, what I want to know is, what's this war gonna do for me? Well for a start its going to turn the world against my people, the English, even the Americans are dis'ing our Imperial past, and Africa is finally waking up and realising what has been done to her and who is responsible, I live in london, I mix with a lot if diffent races, I like it to be peaceful, I like awareness, I don't like hostility and pre-judgment, it fucks up my day. We gonna make a whole lot of enemies and we're very arrogant to think we're gonna get away with it, you lot [America] are a Hyper Power, it's different for you. What have we got to gain? Oil? I don't think so, the other day a bunch of Welsh farmers got done for running their Diesels on a mix of Sunflower oil and ethanol, thereby avoiding fuel tax............

.............and the story was: FARMERS FINED £400 AVOIDING FUEL TAX. With discussions ranging from details of the court case to how 'experts' say its not good for your car and how the council limited the local co-op to be allowed to sell a maximum of one litre of sunflower oil per customer and how they got caught by the giveaway "chipshop" smell...........

..........funny little story, break from the war.........

..........and I thought hang on, Diesel engines run on sunflower oil ethanol mix? Neither of which are non-renewable energy sources. They are both simple crop derivatives, sunflowers probably absorb as much carbon dioxide in growing as they do in burning............


so non-renuable energy sources are totally unecassary..........FUCK!

What have we got to gain? We remove an evil dictator who is a threat to the region and his own people? Sorry, no, this is the "Self-Interest Argument", I've already told you, I don't care how many babies die- it's not MY country, what have I got to gain? How is Britain better off? Britain is better off because it is allied to "America the Sole Superpower", What has America got to gain? Oil? I don't think so, only cos certain interests make particular profit by keeping this fuel scam going but really, that's not a good enough excuse, you'd be more likely to secure future supplies by cultural invasion, this method is undoubtedly going to fuck things up. What have we got to gain? We'll give the people of Iraq "Democracy"! No, no, no, this is the Self-Interest argument, you have to save up moral arguments for the "Moral Argument" (coming next), in the Self Interest argument you have to ask.........

..............WHAT HAVE WE GOT TO GAIN?..........................


................................. THE ANSWER ............


.....................REVENGE!

the "Moral Argument" is very simple it goes like this; WE ARE ABOUT TO ATTACK A RELATIVELY UNARMED COUNTRY THAT IS NOT ATTACKING US OR ANYBODY ELSE, OCCUPYING ANY TERRITORY, OR THREATENING TO DO SO. So here all you Pro-War buffs get to lay all your moral arguments for war........

.......go on........hit me with your best shot.


Saddam Hussein killed millions of his own people.

WE ARE ABOUT TO ATTACK A RELATIVELY UNARMED COUNTRY THAT IS NOT ATTACKING US OR ANYBODY ELSE, OCCUPYING ANY TERRITORY, OR THREATENING TO DO SO

Appeasing Hitler led to the second world war

WE ARE ABOUT TO ATTACK A RELATIVELY UNARMED COUNTRY THAT IS NOT ATTACKING US OR ANYBODY ELSE, OCCUPYING ANY TERRITORY, OR THREATENING TO DO SO

They're not a Democracy

WE ARE ABOUT TO ATTACK A RELATIVELY UNARMED COUNTRY THAT IS NOT ATTACKING US OR ANYBODY ELSE, OCCUPYING ANY TERRITORY, OR THREATENING TO DO SO

Less babies will die after the invasion than before the invasion because we'll lift sanctions off a pro-American government

well..........do I have to?...........

WE ARE ABOUT TO ATTACK A RELATIVELY UNARMED COUNTRY THAT IS NOT ATTACKING US OR ANYBODY ELSE, OCCUPYING ANY TERRITORY, OR THREATENING TO DO SO

Come on you can do better than that, I've been blasted with pro-war material through the media for over a year now, what was the argument again? I'm sure there must have been at least one?

He has weapons of mass destruction?

........AHA! YOU SAY 'weapons of mass destruction' I SAY 'delivery mechansim' Although as this is THE MORAL ARGUMENT that gives me the fairly indefeasible knock down argument within this context: WE HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION

...................................You see, the truth don't change ......You can throw whatever lies you like at it, keep throwing them, it doesn't make any difference...WE ARE ABOUT TO ATTACK A RELATIVELY UNARMED COUNTRY THAT IS NOT ATTACKING US OR ANYBODY ELSE, OCCUPYING ANY TERRITORY, OR THREATENING TO DO SO

its wrong

and stupid

<1>The whole Universe obeys physics

What is physics?

Physics is that which explains the whole universe

What are the fundamental principles of Physics and why?

PA: Physics must be right - otherwise it would be wrong and <1> would be untrue

[therefore] it must be testable [for something to be true it must be testable?]

because nothing that is not testable is right (even though it might not be wrong)

God could test eveything

Metaphysics corresponds to nothing outside of consciousness

PB: Physics must contain no metaphysics

G-d must do nothing but watch, were "he" to interfere, Physics would have to contain a metaphysical principle.

I forsee problems with G-d

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Physics contains no metaphysics and must be testable:

1st empirical observation

I am

2nd

I think

-->there is something

-->the universe exists (even if it is only me)

2nd definition

The beginning is the time when previously there was nothing

when there is nothing there is no time

The beginning is a time

therefore: in the beginning there was time

proposed 1st equation: t0 "=" 1

useless as "=" means nothing when there is only one

there must be something else because I think I have a rough idea what it means

First principle in philosophy - a word means something if I think I have a rough idea what it means

Only G-d can start from nowhere

nowhere includes notime
--------------------------------------------
In the beginning there was time

There must have been something else because "=" means something

there is no such thing aS time unless there is change over time

3rd principle in Physics: Unecassary things don't exist

therefore I must propose: 1st equation:

1+0=1

"+" defined as 2 place operater that gives something

"0" defined as that which when added to "1" gives "1"

"=" defined as that relation between "0+1" & "1"

"+" is like "and"

"=" is like "is"

"0" is nothing at all

"1" is extremely mysterious because I know there is one because I am

there was one in the beginning because there was time, otherwise there would be no beginning
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Ther must have been something else in the beginning otherwise there would be no beginning:

Unecassary things don't exist

Nothing Doesn't exist

-->Nothing is unecassary

So I will add no spatial dimensions to my picture of the beginning (not because I want to, just because I can)

so I have time and a point

But the point of this point is so something could happen, if nothing happened, time couldn't happen

Principle 4 of physics: "nothing happens without a reason"

Because unecassary things don't exist but something else is necassary i will add 1 spatial dimension to my picture

at this stage
"1 spatial dimension" means "something else"

"somthing else" bears the relation to "something":-

"something else" is not equal to "something"

In order to add a spatial dimension to time there must be something 1 dimensional or something 0 dimensional that is moving (or a 1 dimensional thing moving)

If we start with a line nothing happens

So, in the beginning there was something moving

What is motion?

Change of place

What is place?

We can only define place relative to something else3
such that
something else3 =/= something else1=1 spatial dimension
=/= somethign else2=something moving
=/= something0=time

 

i could only be your friend
you needed an enemy
so now thats what you've got
my love i love you most deeply

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every morning
recently
i wake up
in agony
i think about
you the way
u always used to
want me too
my ribcage seizes
up in pain
as my lungs gurgle
into life again
and already i
am composing
curses just for you
_______
your so vain
i bet you think
this curse
is not true
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Counting starts at TWO
for there IS only ||ONE||
So u cannot count on |THAT|
thus from ||TWO|| it is begun
TWO is the other side of |||ZERO|||
from the ONE that is one and all

and we all know ZERO is |||nothing|||
at all
call ||myname|| and you will get |no| reply
until u kno how 2 count to |THREE|
||||I WILL|||| sing to the sky
1,2,3
3,2,1
6,6,5
heaven is heaven
and |SEVEN| is alive
3,2,1
1,2,3
4,5,6
HELL is FIGHTING
with POLITICS
ZERO
ONE
two
three
You cant count on me no more
for i tried to count three
yet the number of numbers is |FOUR|?
3,2,1
1,2,3
6,6,7
i'll see you in hell
once you've polished up Heaven
5,7
3,7
6,7,8
You won't turn the corner
so i'm stuck at the gate
1,2,3
3,6,8
3 - 6 - NINE!
|NINE| lives have i
So what is time?
10,9,8
7,6,5
Time is ticking away
Are |you| still alive?
4,3,2
1,0,1
And on this again
the eternal game is begun

you act rik soundman
as if you know it all and more
yet u know not where to begin
in PROVING 2 + 2 = FOUR!!!

BLESSINGS and curses
the karmic verses
what gets taken gets given
from henceforth
nothing is forgiven

curses and blessings
the fools fool lessons
what gets given gets taken
you thought you knew me
but you were mistaken

if the rainbow dies
before either of us
i will kill u by hand
that is not a cuss
that is a promise

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the fact is, after little miss alpha female decided to wreck the passing clouds wednesdays cos it contradicted her ego - i wrote to mudge and said take back your fuckin organisation, u was always lecturin me about "responsibility" come and take your responsibility

he replied fuckoff and didn't reply again till later...
in the meantime b drove me nuts while refusing to confront, admit or resolve any of the problems she caused (for it would contradict her self perception - and that to her is more important than anything or anyone else in the universe - she would burn the world to maintain her self delusions - like a lot o dem)

so i continue'd to try and discuss it, noones else wanted to, so the discussion got worse and worse - but i forwarded them to mudge@mudge.fm, everything i wrote, to say, "look what they are doing to me?" hoping for some sympathy cos thats exactly what they did to him, the cause of the faluire of peace-not-war since 2004 at least - the collective, and their individual and collective delusions - they all wanna have their say, but noone wanna help

then, right in the middle of dealing with josef cursing me off my rub@peace.fm account gets cut - no more login for me - no warnin - it was mudge

i dont find out for two weeks maybe when byron is attempting to lie me into working for gravy train when i say i will, but only if u do some pnw WORK FOR PEACE-NOT-WAR not for you, not for me - he goes quiet, but only after letting it slip mudge is, x, y, z

i thought it was josef cut me off cos underhand tactics are his speciality

it was mudge

mudge, when i write to him then just cunts me off and blocks my account after telling me i'm fired

now the funny thing about this

the joke they never got, cos they continue to curse me on rob at rub.fm, so i never got a chance to say it is...

a: they cant fire me cos i resigned in 2008 after giulio and baraka cursed the whole thing for the umpteenth time
b: i was doing a gig FOR them cos holly asked me to, for their collective self righteousness means there has been NO peace-not-war for YEARS, i was never doing the gig AS pnw, that was THEIR job - (which of course they never did, and never do)
c:the last thing i asked mudge before he came back, cunted me personally, judged me psychiatrically, cut off my email with not so much as a warning or even letting me no what had happend AND took over peace-not-war ...the funny thing is... the LAST communication i'd had from him, "fuck off you cunt", was in reply to the request, "please take over peace-not-war"

which is now what he has done, objective acheived

just sad a lot of people i used to respect exposed themselves as such fakes, hypocrites and liars during the process - but i knew that anyway

i cried - i laughed

and a new age for peace-not-war is approaching

support them

the time to put energy in is RIGHT NOW

big things can happen there

bless

r...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tG9NdOoBnE